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Baronial Curia Meeting Minutes

December 4, 2003 (A.S. XXXVII)

Baronial Curia Report December 4, 2003
Held in Halifax, Nova Scotia (Seashire)

In Attendance:

Curia
Maria Crook - Baroness
James Crook - Baron
Tina Oliver - Baronial Chatelaine
Wendy Cotton - Baronial Seneschal
Vivian Fox - CCOA
Mike Burnett - Minister of Lists
Joe Chiasson - Exchequer
Joan Chiasson - Herald
Paul McCullough - Chronicler
Diane Plumridge Reid - Minister Arts & Sciences
Susan Richter - Webmaster
John Percy - Seneschal - Canton of Seashire
Colin MacKenzie - Seneschal - Canton of Wolfsgate Sarah Paterson - Seneshal Distant Shore

Populace
Edwina McCullough Kelly Grant Donna McKay Corrine Lewandowski Cass

Correction to Minutes of September 2003
The NMS has never been sent as a donation.

Officer Reports

Chatelaine - Tina Oliver

  • Same 10 new people showing up to practices.
  • Trueheart is teaching fighting at the MFRC on Thursdays.
  • 11 new people for Herne the Hunter event.
  • Seashire contacted for the Acadian Festival.
  • Given a donation from Eleanor of Silver Oak.

Chronicler - Paul McCullough

  • Quid Nunc on Schedule with 8 new subscribing and 2 renewed for a total of 35 subscriptions.
  • New ideas on marketing to up subscriptions
  • Need 2 articles per issue which would mean 1 article per person per year.
  • Possible Chatelaines issue

Exchequer - Joe Chiasson
as submitted via email directly from the Exchequer

Quarterly statement
There is none for this quarter, as I’m now working on the end of year report. After that’s done I’ll be turning over the job to my successor. There are some loose ends to tie up, including money owed, and money to be deposited. Before the end of the year Wolfsgate will have its own account, and the money currently held will be transferred. NMS for NSRC has yet to be sent off to kingdom.

General
As I leave this position, I do so with the sense that a lot has been left undone that needs doing badly. Certainly, the group’s status with the province needs to be clarified, but also the groups position within the SCA also needs to be clarified in light of that. I have no doubt but that this will cause friction with Society, if not with Kingdom, because, based on the experiences of the last year and a half, neither level really acknowledges the complications involved in implementing Society policies.

This curia deals, for the most part, with the game we play. In this area we really haven’t got any serious problems. Our problems stem from those areas where we deal with the real world and its laws and regulations – to wit, money matters.

Firstly, the NMS. This was a charge levied by Society to be applied to non-members of the SCA. The SCA is a foreign national as far as provincial and federal laws are concerned. The authority of that organization and its jurisdiction stop at the Canada-U.S. border. It therefore has no legal claim to any moneys it feels are owed to it under this charge, and it has no legal right to exact that charge through a third party on this side of the border. Since the Barony also has no status with either the province or the federal government, it is not in a position to present itself as a collector on behalf of the SCA.

All it takes is for someone who’s paying attention to lay a complaint with the police. While the immediate reaction may be understated, the repercussions could be very serious, up to and including charges being laid. (that’s the worse case scenario). We tread dangerous ground in this collection on several points:

  • The SCA cannot itself enforce collection of non-membership in an American organization in foreign jurisdictions.
  • The barony, as a non-registered organization, is not in a legal position to act as a collection agency for the SCA.
  • There is quite possibly some violation of law in the collection of money in Canada for the express purpose of sending it to the U.S., particularly as we are not licensed to do cross-border transactions of this kind.

I propose that the barony and cantons cease the collection of the NMS on the grounds that our doing so and transferring the money as we do is in possible violation of laws governing the passing of money across national lines. Until that’s clarified “ignorance is no excuse”.

By the way, to make a correction to the minutes from the last meeting on this point, at no point were NMS fees transferred to kingdom as donations. I was simply pointing out that this was now policy on my part.

Secondly, our current status with the province. As we are working on a business bank account, it follows that any outside observer would assume that we are a business, and not a club. As a business, even non-registered (another point), we are required to provide a tax return yearly to the federal government, same as any other business. It doesn’t matter if we pay taxes or not, we are required to do so. No tax return has been filed with any level of government by this group since its inception.

Should the tax department decide to be nasty about this, our assets are frozen, operations are put on the backburner until such time as an audit or our accounts is done, and they determine for themselves whether or not we owe money. In the meantime, everything stops.

Thirdly, our status with the SCA. I have no idea how to check this out, but I suspect it will mean somehow checking with the relevant US dept. controlling non-profit organizations to find out. Does the barony exist as a legal branch of the SCA, or not? If we do, are we listed as a branch or as a foreign holding?

This is important. Two summers ago a change in policy went into effect regarding transfers to Kingdom. That change was dictated by Society. Prior to that period, transfers to Kingdom were listed as transfers between levels within the organization. Since then, transfers have been listed as donations, by decree from Society.

Implications – either foreign branches do not fall under the regular listing of official entities, in which case we may not exist in the eyes of the US government, or we are seen as foreign holdings for the purposes of filing tax returns by Society. Whatever it is, I don’t think this change in status is a new thing, just something that was brought to the BOD’s attention. Our status will have repurcusions with insurance applications coming out of the SCA.

Fourthly, the bank account. As we are not a formal entity of the SCA, since the SCA doesn’t have status in Canada, the next bank account name should drop the SCA Inc. from its title.

Canadian law doesn’t allow foreign nationals to be signatories on Canadian bank accounts, therefore Kingdom exchequer can’t be a signatory. That being said, it is the contention of Kingdom that the regional exchequer be signed on to the account instead.

This will not happen while I’m in this position, and should not happen at all under any other exchequer. If it is illegal for Kingdom to gain access to this account through the front door, it is probably at least iffy to allow it access through the back door by way of its regional representative.

Like it or not, reality has reared its ugly head. I never had a scare in this job like the one I got when I got queried on the legal status of the barony, and the message had a signature that read,

Karl Villanueva, C.A.
Senior Manager
Grant Thornton LLP
New Glasgow, NS

This is not the sort of thing any treasurer should be dealing with, having to explain and justify the lack of status of an organization.

This lack of status has cost us an eminently qualified candidate for the position. He is a chartered accountant, but because of the ambiguity of our position, he cannot take the position. Doing so would put him in violation of his code of conduct, a thing that would cost him his certification. That’s how serious our lack of status is.

  • Request for documented legal status was requested that could be provided should any questions be asked in the future
  • Motion - Contact lawyer to deal with the NMS issues and other exchequer issues. Contact all parties' involved (tax accountant as well.) report ready from Gwen for next curia. Joan seconded 11 in favor.

Coronet - James Crook

  • 8 new boxes of baronial items have been received and are being stored in the basement
  • The coronet office will be looking into revamping the award system
  • Need signatures for the dabbler's heraldry to be passed

Knight Marshall - Mike Sangster

No report filed

Company Captain of Archers - Vivian Fox

  • It's winter - there are no practices ongoing at the present time.
  • Will need a deputy this spring to cover for maternity leave
  • Bow is on back order from Paul McCullough
  • Cailean mentioned buying a bulk order of arrows

Minister of Lists - Mike Burnett

Waiting for reports - in transition

Webmaster - Susan Richter

  • 10 email addresses are available for use with the move to the new website
  • Posters are available on line
  • Award recommendation forms are available on line
  • Updates are on going
  • Event registration - autocrats should encourage the populace to use this rather than email as it collects all the pertinent information you need to process a registration without needing to follow up. Registration forms can be individualized.
  • It is with regret that an offer made in September for the cantons to have website space at ruantallan.org is no longer an option due to new security issues implemented by the server that do not permit multiple ftp logons. The webmaster will help the cantons find their own server sites and help design web sites as time permits if needed.

A&S - Diane Plumridge Reid
as submitted via email by the Minister of Arts & Sciences

Barony of Ruantallan Arts and Sciences Report for December 2003

Here is my report of A&S in the Barony of Ruantallan from June to December, 2003.

My term of office expires in December. I expect my deputy, Lady Estela du Frayse (mka Kelly Grant email: estela_dufrayse@hotmail.com) will take over my position if Curia accepts her.

In the Canton of Seashire, there are weekly A&S gatherings on Sunday afternoons. Each week has a different topic and rotates through Calligraphy/Illumination, Sewing, Cooking, and subjects of general interest. Activity has been slow due to the time of year (weather, events), and Dance class has been added to the roster.

A hat making workshop was held in July at the home of Maestra Francesca. Five attendees now have hands-on experience blocking felt.

“Several craftspeople from Ruantallan participated in largess for our King & Queen to give as gifts to the royals of the known world at Pennsic. Lady Enna Bonetrader - leather ducal coronets. Lady Allesandra Francesca di Milano did the Queen's gift - a drawn work table runner and napkins. Lord Guthfrith Yrlingson - A carved wooden game board, complete with rules for a game he created, all in a silk bag. Lady Estela du Frayse - Period undergarments - a shirt and braies for the King and a chemise for the Queen; the workmanship on the garments was fabulous, I showed them to several people who were awed by the tiny stitches and gorgeous fabric; Most people thought it was silk and were surprised to find out it was cotton. His Lordship Yesungge Altan - a collection of period condiments - mustards, salts and what have you, all attractively displayed in glass jars in a nice embroidered bag.” From a report from Duchess Katherine Stanhope.

The Bayeux Tapestry project continues, and our portion has been seen at several events with various people painting sections as time allowed.

From Margaret Twigge (mka Treva MacLean) of Seashire, I have “Since your last curia meeting we have had a get together at the Baron's to meet 2 hawks and their handlers and had a talk on the care and useage of the birds. We had a good turnout and everyone enjoyed it. Upcoming is a class on Pewter Casting on Sept.21st by Lady Isa. A&S classes over the summer have been mostly cancelled except for Dance class.”

There were A&S displays and competitions at several events this fall. At Baronial Investiture in Distant Shore, a novice competition was held with many participants on a variety of topics; novice being anybody trying something new. There were about 10 entrants, as I recall, including metal work, hats, knitting, calligraphy, and leather work. There was a most interesting interactive display/demonstration of period lighting techniques including rushes and rope in a variety of fuel sources like drawn butter and fish oil, the work of Hedda Bonesetter. She also entered the A&S competition at the Northern Shores Rapier and A&S championship event a few weeks later. There were some 20 or so entries into the latter competition, but I have no report from the person who ran it, and my memory is not so good these days. Jason is the first A&S champion of the Northern shores, both from the judges and populous, for his metal work. He had several entries including a chain mail shirt, forged steel knife, and intricate jewelry.

Lady Estela has started a project to digitally photograph the arts at work in our area, and some of this is available for viewing on the Ruantallan website.

No reports from Distant Shore, Wolfsgate, or Ynys y Gwaed. The latter canton has just held elections and the following is now MOAS: Marian Warren (Maid Marian), no contact info given.

All in all, it has been a good year for the Arts in Ruantallan!

Herald - Joan Chiasson

  • Contacted kingdom for the warrant - still waiting confirmation.
  • Contacted YYG for help with heraldry
  • 1 person has heraldry currently being processed.

Canton Reports

Distant Shores - Sarah Paterson

  • 8-10 members and 15 non members
  • Current account is 1284.15
  • New signage is available from Distant shore for use by other cantons (8 signs)
  • Display in Truro library of various items for three weeks this quarter.
  • Populace meetings at the fighting practice. Also starting to have classes. Youth SCA has been combined with the regular practice.

Seashire - John Percy

  • 40 members and 45 non members
  • Several events on going
  • A&S Sundays are on going
  • Fight Practice every Thursday
  • Organizing a reference for Event halls and their contact numbers. Lady Janet Kempe is to update

Wolfsgate - Colin MacKenzie

  • 9 members and 1 non member
  • Recruitment drive - will need help from the other canton and the barony where possible.
  • Need some time between events so that people will travel to wolfsgate for events

Ynys y Gwaed - presented by Wendy Cotton for the YYG Seneschal in absentia

A new board has recently been elected and the offices are in transition at this time. More on the status of YYG should be available at the next curia meeting.


Old Business

  • Baronial T-Shirt sales are wrapping up. Approx 152.00 in profit from sales. New shirt for next year will be advertised as a limited run. More fundraising ideas are in the works.
  • Report for Northern Shores Rapier Tournament
    1. 105 people in attendance with 17 fencers and half a dozen artisans
    2. Profit of 79.74
    3. Problems with the site being dusty and more money than originally quoted.
    4. Need to get the A&S stuff out to the competitors more quickly.
    5. 108.00 was collected for the NMS
    6. The rapier champion is Gunfrith
  • Report from BIA
    1. 105 people in attendance
    2. Profit of 462.67
    3. Baronial Championship, Archery and novice A&S
    4. Baronial Champion is William Lancton
    5. Novice A&S was Hedda Ragnar for rush lights
    6. 202.00 collected for the NMS
  • Report form Festival of Lights - coming soon
  • Update for 12th night - none submitted for the curia meeting
  • Their Royal Highnesses received crown Tourney - bid. Bids close on January 1st and the deadline for notification of successful bid is February 15th.
  • Membership draw - not going very well - interest is not there.
  • Posters - downloadable now from the Website
  • SOP's - changes were made and they were voted on. 11 in favor. The SOP's will be made available soon and the new SOP's will be in the next Quid Nunc.

New Business

  • Election of Officers
    1. A&S now Kelly Grant (Estella du Frayse)
    2. Exchequer - interim is Colin MacKenzie (Cailean mac Eachduinn)
    3. Knight Marshall - not voted on - need to see if Drogo is interested in the position still.
    4. Chancellor Minor - not required and I will advertise again for a chancellor minor.
  • Heraldry - Joan asked for $110.00 to purchase heraldry books. Motion on the floor by Cailean to purchase the books, seconded by Wynfrithe. 11 in favor, no abstentions, no against.
  • Scriptorium - $250.00 for supplies for making baronial scrolls. Discussion on the use of supplies and the separation of personal scrolls from baronial scrolls. Motion to reimburse the supplies to the scriptorium by Estella seconded by Vivian. 11 in favor, no abstentions, no against.
  • Event bid by the Canton of Seashire for Baronial Rapier Championship.
    1. Autocrat is Algernon, head cook is Lachlan, Marshall is Gryffyd
    2. Bedford United Church
    3. Activities include Rapier Championship, A&S competition, Dancing, Gaming, Merchanting, and classes if possible.
    4. No pets
    5. Will be in the Pikestaff and the Quid Nunc
    6. NMS will be in effect.
  • Chartered Groups
    1. Scriptorium is an appointment, not an official baronial guild.
    2. To obtain a Scroll go through the baroness
    3. Baronial Supplies - guidelines must be drawn up. Information to go on the website.
    4. Cookery Guild - items may be transferred from the cook's guild to the cookery guild. Tina to send an email after chartered
  • Events
    1. Rotation of baronial events. Certain dates for baronial events consolidate activities - spread out over the cantons.
    2. Events will no longer be accepted by curia without the minimum standards of the event bid form being met. The minimum standards are in a form on the website. Autocrats need to fill this out for a baronial event.
    3. Cantons are strongly encouraged to follow guidelines set out in the baronial event form submission guide to accept canton level bids.
  • Letter form the NS Regional Seneschal -
    1. There are only official SCA events and Non SCA events. There is never an unofficial event.
    2. The NMS is applied only to events that are listed in the Pikestaff.
  • Waivers - Discussion on when waivers are to be collected, and when they should be submitted. Paperwork submitted.

Meeting adjourned

Next meeting to be held on or around March 2004. Location: TBA


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